i think his foreign policy is very -- >> do you think we need to pull out of these nations? >> no. >> then how do you say we need to control the foreign situation in iraq, the country we ended our war with and now afghanistan? >> we need to have principles and the allies need to know we'll be strong and reliable and our enemies need to know we'll keep our word with what we say we will do. and we have not kept our word in iraq or afghanistan by setting benchmarks before we would leave. that's why the afghan people know the taliban will be there when we are gone and they are very, very concerned about it. and it's destabilizing. but let's get back to the economy, it was governor romney who talked about what he would do to create jobs. he's the one who put forward specifics about his plan. one thing that know one has talked about today is that his five-point plan includes increasing trade with central and south america. trade in our hemisphere, which is absolutely essential for us and easier and will build up central and south america so that it has more stable economies. >> on